covid inquiry

SO after you have been listening to the covid inquiry.... Are you still pro Boris and negative Cummings or after listening to the evidence your changing your mind????

Boris is an overprivelaged ,arrogant,self serving buffoon and Cummins is a rat

I still like Boris
and I still think he was totally unsuited to be PM.

I still dislike DomCum
Although I think the revelations emanating from him are of value.

I certainly don't approve of the whole cabal behaving like a nest of gangsters when it came to managing the country.

Bojo reminds me of various friends from the past: great to party with, enjoy their company in the boozer, or nightclubbing. Last person in the world you would want to work with or have any business or financial dealings with. A loveable rouge is still a rogue. A bit like a loveable Rottweiler: you need to keep constraints in place.

Jacobs Moggologues

H M.

Boris Johnson & Dominic Cummings should have been the 'Dream Team' with Cummings and his staff in charge of the day to day running of the government and Boris, leaving Boris to be Boris, but Carrie had too much influence over Boris, and Boris was doing what Carrie told him to do, rather than doing what folk like Dominic Cummings were advising him to do, and Dominic Cummings knew what he was doing, Carrie did not have a clue, because Carrie has got no political or managerial experience, LINK in fact she should be a left wing looney, or maybe she is, and she just does not know it.

I started to listen to the enquiry, but there is far too much detail for the casual listener to properly process, and the extent of material, in real time is enormous.

I bet there is a good book in it for anyone with the skill to boil it down: sort of highlights of the dysfunctionality.

Just, on 'Newscast' on the Beeb, someone echoed what I have been thinking: what can we do to make our administration better?

Link

No thanks

Don't want the ravings of a deluded fantasist.

Hers not my cup of tea either.

Nor mine. Next instalment tomorrow in the Mail on Sunday

cummins & johnson are more like charlie corroli & paul .

Disgraceful.

I dont like Cummins but i do believe he was hung out to dry from the powers to be..... He was a threat to the civil service and the old men's club And what he did in covid lock down {"what they were all doing"] gave them the opportunity.... "brood of vipers"!!!!!!

Jonathan Sumption: Why the Covid inquiry is a farce

Covid

As they say, "hindsight is a wonderful thing" because of course you can look back and say things could have been done better, that is the same as with any situation.

How did Britain do, in comparison with other similar types of countries, in dealing with the Covid-19 Pandemic ?

As regards Dominic Cummings, it should not matter if you like him or not or if he has a mouth like a sewer, but with hindsight was he the right man to have been in there, or was he an idiot ?

If Labour had been in power with Corbyn or Starmer in charge, would they have done things differently ?

Would things have been done differently if David Cameron had still been Prime Minister ?

no because they dont care about the public , only money .

Lord Sumption is doing a 'Trump': attacking the enquiry.

Not what you would expect from a former Supreme Court Justice...

Well, perhaps not...

Wasn't he the person who advocated people be free to infect others with the virus when he opposed lockdown and something similar people being free to get infected as they strove to earn their crust?

Whupsy

Rubbish, Boris threw money at it, however if David Cameron had been in charge, I don't think that he would have thrown money at it, and of course we would have been part of the EU Covid vaccine development, whether we had still been in the EU or not, so there would not have been the UK AstraZeneca (Oxford) vaccine, and as regards 'furlough' would David Cameron have been has generous as Boris was ?

boris waited until thousands lost their life & did,nt give a toss about people of a certain age . no matter how much money was thrown you cant buy back peoples lives , can you . get real 1stroke .

I can't find it to give you the actual quotation, but I thought Edinburgh Evening News offered an apt summary, along the lines of Alexander Boris de pfeffel Johnson acted and sounded as someone entitled to be Prime Minister, and then turned out to have all the leadership skills of a cornered rat.

found it

Well, now we have learned from multiple and independent sources that BOTH Rishi and Boris wanted to just let older people die!

You’ve got to hand it to this clique: they continually get people that they hold in absolute contempt to vote for them.

Theirs no substitute for stupidity Ena

OK then ......

To the last few posters, what would you have done instead ?

If you had a choice between letting older people die, or letting younger people die, and you had to make the choice, no alternative, one or the other, young or old, no waffle, no just hating the Tories because of a bloody strike 50yrs ago, young or old, it is one or the other, nothing to do with politics or class or income, young or old ?

WELL !!!!

What would it be ?

But clearly, THERE WAS AN ALTERNATIVE

or many of us would now not be here to discuss it.

how about bringing in measures earlier 1stroke .

THEY ARE ALL REPEAT ALL JUST A BUNCH OF RATS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GB.

G B.

Waffle, fudge, hate Tories, yoo lot just cannot help yourselves

Shoulders like Guinness bottles the lot of them.

Covid

Nor can you onestroke.

fudge, fudge, hate, hate, waffle, waffle, rhetoric, rhetoric, rhetoric, you are like a stuck record (remember them)

That is the problem with these fascists

They buy-in so deeply into the cult of personality

that they become incapable of recognising the flaws in their idol

And find they have only one way to counter criticism

Shoot the messenger.

(Goes for extremists of the opposite persuasion also)

isnt that the impression that farage gives 1stroke & you fell for him hook line & sinker .

yes you did .

the truth is that they just did,nt care .

Or, that they were trying to outbid each other in the machismo stakes, or the political equivalent thereof: a nasty attempt to secure the backing of the extremists of the nasty party.

Had they got their way, they would have been loudly proclaiming that there was no alternative, and lauding their bold move to sacrifice many of us!

If Labour had been in power when the Covid pandemic started, the same scientists, would have been giving the same advice to a Labour government, and that Labour government, would have to have made the same decisions that Boris and his Conservative government made, and I think that Labour would have made identical decisions to those which the Conservatives government made.

Part of the more general trend of the indulgence in murder and mayhem by the world’s depressingly large coterie of psychopaths, doubling as political leaders.

I don't know what you mean.

tts

But we are not dealing with an action of Tories opposed by Labour.

A preference (Described as an obsession) by Bojo and Rishi which they were prevented from actualising by opposition from within their own government.

Maybe if in government, an opposition party would have also had leaders exhibiting the same callous pathology, maybe so, maybe not . Nobody knows. Not me, not you, not anybody.

I am surprised at the lengths to which you will go with your abstract constructions to excuse the inexcusable.

I am not excusing anything, I just don't see how Labour would have done any better or worse than the Conservatives, because the same government advisors and civil servants would have been there, giving the government the same advice, options, probable outcomes etc

But NOT the same personalities and ambitions of those in charge. Clearly they could have done better. Also clearly they could have done worse. Why debate a hypothetical about which we cannot know.

You are bringing party politics into an issue that is only slightly a partisan issue. (others in their own party also could have done better, done worse)

That Bojo and Rishi both pressed for an outcome that was totally opposed to what they sold to the electorate as their position, is of interest. Fortunately, our way of doing things did not allow them to pursue such an outcome. (unlike Brazil for example).

it,s always "if labour did this or if labour did that"the truth is that labour are NOT IN POWER & do not make decisions or laws for this country . take your tory specs off 1stroke & stop making excusses for them . they just did,nt care wether we lived or died . get real .

What about Whupsy !!!!

Well, and this is just my personal opinion, you are like two spectators cheering on your own teams at a football match in Chernobyl: both unwilling to concede that playing football here might be ill-advised.

i dont change with the wind unlike you .

Poppycock !!!!

Ena

I am not supporting any team, if it was a game, then there would have been no winner, because the match would have been called off.

how you can say it,s poppycock when they have said it from their own mouths shows your level of intelligence 1stroke .